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Interview With Creator of The Last Sovereign, Sierra Lee

Sierra Lee of The Last Sovereign and Hreinn Games sat down with LewdGamer to talk about her projects, including the upcoming Kingdom of Deception.

Sierra Lee is a busy woman. She’s created a game called Ouroboros, and she’s been working on an RPG named The Last Sovereign for quite some time. She’s also one-half of the gaming duo Hreinn Games. Hreinn Games finished their first game, Noxian Nights, not too long ago, and are preparing for the first release of their follow-up, Kingdom of Deception. Somehow, between all her various endeavors, she had time to sit with us and talk about her own unique perspective on H-games, and what she has planned for the future.

LewdGamer: What made you decide that you wanted to create H-games?

Sierra Lee: I’ve always known I wanted to be a creator, but h-games weren’t my goal from the beginning. Whenever I read novels, I come up with novel ideas, I think about movies when I’m watching movies, etc. I play a lot of games, including NSFW games, so I was spending time thinking about those as well. Since the field of adult games is relatively young, especially in the west, there was a lot of enthusiasm and teams starting new projects, so the atmosphere of fresh creativity especially captured my attention. I couldn’t find as many games of the type I wanted as I expected, though, so I decided to try to make games I loved and see if there was an audience for them. Thankfully, that seems to be the case.

LewdGamer: What games influence your own approach to game writing and design? H-games or otherwise.

Sierra Lee: I’ve always been impressed by games where the mechanics and story complement one another. The early ones to strike me this way were the Metroid series, where the feeling of isolation and exploration works so well, and the original Prince of Persia, which was very different than what I’d played before as a kid, but felt appropriate for the game. There are plenty of good recent examples too — for example, Rocksteady’s Arkham series does a good job of using every single game mechanic toward a coherent goal — but those two had an early influence on my sense for game design.

RPGs were always my favorite genre, though. That love was cemented by the Final Fantasy series, with its relentless focus on story. Planescape: Torment also had a big impact on me, because it took a premise that could have been bland and went far deeper than I expected. I have mixed feelings about Bioware, but they’re one of the biggest companies trying to create RPGs with significant choices, so I always pay attention to what they’re trying.

There are adult games that have influenced me quite a bit, but I won’t name names since the influence was largely making me think about ways I didn’t want to do things. I’ve played quite a few where it feels clear I’m not the target audience, so I’ve set out to do something different in the ways that interest me.

The Last Sovereign Sierra Lee

LewdGamer: What was it about H-games that you’ve played that made you think they weren’t for you, and what are you hoping to do differently with your own games?

Sierra Lee: Well, let me say that I’m a big believer in the idea that everyone should be able to like what they like. Many things are simply not my cup of tea, and that is fine, so I don’t want to get too far into criticizing others’ cups of tea.

Having said that, one aspect is the treatment of fetishes and taboos. A lot of games seem to find violating taboos to be really hot, which feels strangely puritanical to me. Taboos tend to be very culturally-bound and artificial, so I can’t take them too seriously. Making the violation of those arbitrary boundaries a central focus doesn’t feel naughty or exciting to me, just kind of stuffy, like we’re all elderly ladies getting hot and bothered over an exposed ankle. I would rather just show the ankle (or gangbang, or whatever the fetish is).

LewdGamer: That seems to tie into your main solo project, The Last Sovereign. Can you tell us what the game is about?

Sierra Lee: On one hand, you could think about TLS as an hRPG for people who have spent too much time thinking while playing hRPGs. How the heck does a succubus society function? If sex combat is a thing, what does that do to religion and society in general? The game gleefully turns some things on their heads for the fun of it, like the opening; it’s pretty much no longer a secret that the first five minutes of the game are setting up for a plot twist in order to establish what kind of game TLS is.

On the other hand, TLS is a saga-length story set in a world I’ve spent a lot of time building filled with characters I love. I try to present a world where a character can be named “Qum D’umpe” and get people to take it seriously in the end. A ton of thought has gone into all the aspects of world-building, and these aren’t just amusing myself: as your characters gain more control over politics and society, they have a chance to make real changes in their world.

I’m still kind of amazed that so many people are willing to take a chance with me on such an expansive game. All I can do is give my thanks and promise that the story is heading toward a conclusion that will fulfill all the promises the game has made.

LewdGamer: How much longer do you feel like TLS has in terms in development time at this point?

Sierra Lee: I’m reluctant to give an exact timeline, because that will make some parts of the finale too easy to guess. But I will say that we are past half way and almost all the important characters have been introduced. There will be no more expansions of scope adding a lot of new elements to the plot, what remains is for all the conflicts that have been introduced to play out.

The Last Sovereign Forest Sierra Lee

LewdGamer: Changing gears, you’re not just a solo creator, but you’re also one-half of Hreinn Games. Can you tell us how you met your co-creator, Nomo?

Sierra Lee: It was via the rarely-used “Under Construction” sub-forum on ULMF, believe it or not. We both wanted to make adult games, but had experienced difficulty finding reliable collaborators. Our initial plan was to make Noxian Nights a simple game to test out how well we worked together, but listening to patron feedback made it clear that fans wanted a longer game. So we gave the game all the content we felt it deserved, and it’s only now that we’re developing the other ideas we’ve discussed.

LewdGamer: Is that why you decided to make the game based on a fandom (League of Legends) as opposed to an original story?

Sierra Lee: It was definitely part of the consideration. Character design can be a very time-intensive process, so using a fandom let us take advantage of great designs and get to making a game instead of spending even more time in the preparation stages. We discussed doing other fan games, but based on developments in the broader NSFW community, we decided it was better to move on to our original ideas.

LewdGamer: What do you mean by “developments in the broader NSFW community?”

Sierra Lee: The most specific thing was the DMCA received by Sunsetriders7 from Warner Brothers. We were planning a game based on Teen Titans, which is owned by the same company. Our feeling was that if Warner Brothers felt like porn parodies didn’t fall under fair use, then we wouldn’t fight them on it.

LewdGamer: But, instead of working on that, you’ve instead started work on a yet-to-be-released a title called Kingdom of Deception. Can you describe what Kingdom of Deception is about for me?

Sierra Lee: In Kingdom of Deception, a war between a variety of fantasy races has ended with a human kingdom coming to dominate the known world. An ambitious young general named Sabia is betrayed by her own side, loses everything she has, and ends up in a camp of orcs, where she has to claw her way back to power. The game will have a stronger emphasis on players choosing how the protagonist develops than any of the games I’ve developed so far.

LewdGamer: What is it about the setting and themes of Kingdom of Deception that you feel makes the game erotic?

Sierra Lee: Having a lot of fantasy races and monsters available gives us the potential for a lot of erotic variety from the start, of course. What we’re especially interested in doing with this game is playing with domination and submission in a way that gives the player more control over what they see. Not that players will have complete control – the protagonist starts in a rough situation and will have to make difficult decisions. But over time, you’ll be able to shape the path you take and the scenes will take on the tone the player finds hottest.

LewdGamer: Besides monster/human sex and dom/sub-themes, what are some kinks we can hope to see explored in the game?

Sierra Lee: As with Noxian Nights, we hope to cover a wide variety of kinks. Obviously you can expect our standbys: oral, titfucking, anal, threesomes, orgies, etc. There’s already an outfit system in place that will serve as equipment but also cover a variety of fetishes. There will definitely be scenes between the female characters, both yuri and some futa or strap-ons. Certain parts of the game will get into breeding/pregnancy too. Our plans haven’t ruled out anything except underage characters, scat, and guro – those aren’t among our interests, but otherwise we like some of everything!

LewdGamer: And this game isn’t being made in RPG Maker, correct?

Sierra Lee: That’s right, we’re using Ren’Py. Though the game will have combat and RPG elements, we wanted to put more of the focus on player decisions and broader strategy. If anyone wants to know more, we recently put up a public post on our Patreon addressing how we’re trying to create a fun RPG without grinding.

Kingdom of Deception 1 Sierra Lee

LewdGamer: When do you think players can expect to see the first release?

Sierra Lee: It should be early 2017 if all goes well. We can’t commit to a specific release date, since we haven’t done a full cycle with this system yet. Right now we’re splitting our time between the more boring background work and the juicy content we know people want – both are pretty far along, but since we can’t make an accurate estimate of how long the rest will take, that’s all we can say for now.

LewdGamer: Do you have any ambitions for Hreinn Games? Where would you ideally like to see it move going forward?

Sierra Lee: While we have huge ambitions, we try to stay focused on the next delivery of good content. We hope to make KoD the best game we can, then we’ll reflect on everything we’ve learned and try to make the next one another step more ambitious. Also, we hope to eventually be able to do some shorter games: those will let us experiment with new ideas without devoting a huge amount of development time to them, then we can roll what we learned there into one of our core ongoing games.

LewdGamer: If there was one way you could magically change the Western H-game market, how would you change it?

Sierra Lee: I’m pretty sure it would be unwise to give me that power. ^-^ But since this is hypothetical, I’ll say that I wish adult games were free to be treated like normal games. Because of the stigma attached to sexual games, we get forbidden from many venues, have to use patches to be accepted on Steam, can’t develop community on places like YouTube, get worse payment processors if we can get them at all, etc. If those barriers could be lowered, then you’d see the bar rise across the board and everyone would get more of what they want.

LewdGamer: Thank you very much for joining us today.

Sierra Lee: Happy to be here!

The Last Sovereign Map Sierra Lee

Sierra Lee releases her own projects on her Patreon page, which can be found here. For her projects with Nomo as part of Hreinn Games, and for more details on Kingdom of Deception, please check out Hreinn Games’ Patreon page.

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  • Vaelore

    Nice and all, but the RPG maker “engine” is a bit of a turnoff. Mostly because of the tiny window size.

    • Tiny window size is not an actual limitation you have to live by in rpgmaker there are plenty of scripts out there to make it bigger just most people don’t account for that in their design planning of the game itself as bigger tends to just make everything look smaller unless you specifically design it differently.

      • Antonio

        Wrong. I am making a game in RPG Maker VX Ace and there was one DLL that could increase the window as well as the Fullscreen + which Sierra lee uses, but it is gone now. I searched on teh foruns and everything, and the situation is summarized to this: Increase the Window size requires changing the program itself, which is against the EULA. I think the DLL that was available was ilegal, that is why no one posted a back up. But no all is lost. VX ace has a max resolution of 640/480 but MV has a bigger resolution, not sure how much, because I don’t have it, but games in MV are bigger than VX Ace.

    • Sierra Lee

      I’m not a fan of how small it is either, so I got a pretty decent script that makes the game full screen better than generic methods. It’s still a pretty retro look, but I think it’s nice if you want a larger window. Press F5 to give it a try!

      • James J.

        F5 & F6 actually. The script causes the game to remember two different window types. F5 changes the window type, while F6 will change the actual size of the screen itself.

        But good job on the interview Sierra. Good to see you getting more exposure. If you ever DO blow up like Bioware from simple guys in their basements, I’m applying for a bug-tester/code-checker position!

    • Emanuel Hoogeveen

      Personally I use AutoSizer to make games 2x or 3x scale (depending on the engine’s internal resolution). It’s a bit finicky to figure out the resolution you want since it’s the size of the client rect you want to double or triple, not the size of the window itself, but I’ll take 5 minutes of fiddling with screenshots and GIMP over hours of eye strain 😉

    • Atmey

      I use the windows built-in magnifier (windows key+plus sign), can set zooming intervals as well.

  • GroovyPotato

    One of the few quality writers in hgames, if you don’t know any Japanese.
    It’s as she said, western porn gaming is young, and suffer from that by being really simplistic story and characterization wise.
    As for the adult game normalization, we can dream, but in this era, we are sandwiched between conservatives bigots, and sjw puritans, unfortunately, so having this space in the Internet is already an awesome thing IMO.

    • Antonio

      I wouldn’t bet on that. Think 30 years ago did you imagine anything like what happen today would happen? Yes, there is conservative people, but the young ones, who was born recently tends to not be. So we can still dream that one day, sexuality will be accepted as a part of what we are, and not someting to be ashamed of.

      • GroovyPotato

        Trends aren’t with us at least. Today is the result of people believing in freedom of speech, and actually not giving a fuck to neither sjw feminists nor conservatives 30 years ago. History was with them, intellectuals were with them.
        Unfortunately, there is a resurgence of these ideologies not only with younger people (see the craziness going on in US/UK campus for example, with identity politics and regressive “feminism”), but also with the “thought leaders” (see the press treatment of Gamergate).
        Did you know that 40% of young people born after the 2000 are for a more restrictive view of freedom of speech and thought?
        The good thing is that we have Internet, so they can bicker as much as they want on how to control the thoughts of their fellow citizens, and on how to censor them, we aren’t an easy target.

        • Antonio

          I hope you are wrong. Because thinking back, Hentais wasn’t even a thing on 90s, you could get one or other being released here and there, today, many comes out every month. Before H games were japanese only, now there are many westerns ones. In patreon, many of the sucessful projects are hentai ones. Today we have sites well known for selling these things, like Nutaku and Mangagamer.

          Of course it’s hard to point things, since it differ from country to country and culture to culture, and while there are many discurssions on internet about everything, I never really saw anyone defending the censorship, or at least, not using fake arguments like porn increase sexual violence.

          But please, don’t believe in every single research you see. These 40% are too high to be believable. It isn’t hard to bias a resaerch, in fact many of them are biased by simple probability alone. See this ( And that isn’t the only source I found about it. So never consider things like this a being written in the stone, There are as many researches connecting games and violence as there are researches not finding any connection at all.

          • GroovyPotato

            First of all, hentai wasn’t a thing in the 90s, because no Internet, simple as that. In the 90s all the rage was about the supposed violence induced by video games, particularly with Mortal Kombat. Also, regressive feminists were pushing for a ban of any porn, but fortunately, the more reasonable ones won at that time.
            As of today, Nutaku or Mangagamer are really tiny compared to many Japanese studios. The question is : why these Japanese studios had never gone International and even gone to the extent of blocking non Japanese IP from their websites for many of them ? Because of the climate around cartoon porn in the West.
            Remember the Rapelay “incident” ? Remember the UN petition to ban Japanese works featuring sexual violence against fictional women characters ? Of course nothing about sexual violence against fictional men characters in yaoi… See the pattern here ? This is just witch hunting and mass hysteria about fictional characters, with some virtue signaling on top of that.

            (BTW the Japanese women association response to them, telling them politely to fuck off, was a breath of fresh air of rationality).
            Even a child knows the difference between fantasy and reality.

            About censorship, well, you should really go see what’s going on in universities about sjw craziness, you will be horrified. It’s not just some people, it’s a growing trend to see everything as sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. Freedom of expression can die, they don’t care.
            Even for non adult works or things completely unrelated, they go crazy, so imagine now with an actual porn game…

            About the study, I think it’s not a bullshit one actually, you can see it for yourself :

            I agree with you in many things though :
            – There is no evidence of games making ANYTHING for people, be it violent, rapist, etc. In fact the majority of studies actually see either no link, or even the reverse, as games actually act as some kind of catharsis for the players, making them less prone to violence IRL.
            Also, violence is going down for 20 years now, while in the same time the game industry was continuously developing. Actually one of the safest country of the world is Japan, home of the tentacle rape porn… meanwhile, I don’t want to be a woman in the Middle East, treated like a quasi slave all my life.

            – People are against censorship in general, but please notice that it’s not as true as before for the mass media or the regressive sjw. And they have the politician ears. In the US and UK, at least. There are a minority yes, but a very loud and influential one.

            – I also hope I’m not right in being concerned about the future.

          • Antonio

            Ok your research looks more believable now, but you stated different of what I saw, just by passing my eyes on it. The question was: “We asked whether people believe that citizens should be able to make public statements that are offensive to minority groups, or whether the government should be able to prevent people from saying these things. ” This isn’t exactly violate free speach,

            This is people being asked if they agree that Hittler go to pub screaming how jews a scum, how they made Germany lose the WW1, and all the other things we know he did, or if they think the government should do something. To say offensive things to a person, on Brazil is called “injúria” (injury) and it’s already a crime, not that many people have been sued under this. Of course that implement a law to forbid that would be really hard, but not exactly violation of free speach. Violation of free speach is to forbid parts of art, or speak against a government, or to forbid things because someone thinks that is bad without any scientific proof and debates, etc..

          • GroovyPotato

            Well, I support freedom of speech, the whole package, as in “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it”.

            Freedom of speech is the absolute freedom to say even the worst disgusting shit because being offended isn’t a reason to be censored.Freedom of speech cannot be stopped because of “feelings”, the same as violent games that are offending some bigots cannot be censored because of their “feelings”, the same as porn cannot be banned because some sjw is being “offended” somewhere.

            So yeah, about this study, the thing to note is that for a person A thinking that we should ban racists from speaking, you’ll have person B that wants to ban people mocking fat people, and person C who wants to ban any sexy woman or man in any artistic expression because misogyny.
            And identity politics are really a big thing right now in the US, especially for the younger population.
            The study doesn’t detail what kind of “offensive speech” they are talking about, but the fact that younger people actually want to censor things more than the older generation is what worries me.

            It’s like a reverse in trend: the whole 20th century (in the US, and in many countries) was about more freedom, either sexually, artistically, with values like tolerance and a strong attachment to freedom of speech.
            Will the 21st be about the victory of the sjw bigots ? I don’t know, but I fear what I see of their cult like behavior.

          • Antonio

            For me the question induces you to think it means things like Hittler going public cursing and encouraging hate crimes, people belonging to the minority, like Muslim and or people suffering with racism or other discrimination in general will really tend to say yes. But as you said, “offensive” is a big term and can have many interpretations, I don’t think one can be offended because something exist, unless you are forced to pay for it (on Brazil carnaval, which we are famous for, have many parties made by the government with our money which is a big offense to our health and education). But as things were done, the numbers looks pretty resonable to me

          • Tarantian

            Citing sources is great, let’s not stop now. Does anyone have any polls that deal with the question of censorship in greater detail? Because otherwise we’re just trying to make assumptions about what people’s answers mean, and we could be wrong about that since the initial question is somewhat vague.

            Free speech has never been the ability to say absolutely anything, there are limits when speech becomes injurious. The usual “fire in a crowded theater” example, or slander/libel. I think we’d all agree that being offended alone isn’t enough to count as injury, but I think reasonable people can disagree about where the law should draw the line. That’s why I think a poll that asked more precise questions about it could be very interesting.

            Also, I was surprised to see that more education means more support for free speech. The difference between high school and college was -9/+12 points, that’s significant.

          • GroovyPotato

            This study was just an example, not sure why it became so central xD.

            I’m a First Amendment person, so free speech is the ability to say anything, of course. Else it’s not free speech, but more or less restricted speech. I can say what I want, it’s up to people to believe me or not.And as you said, free speech is not the right to say just happy things that don’t hurt the feelings of others 🙂

            Your example is not about free speech as in the First Amendment though, it’s about the fact that yelling “Fire” in a private theater can be dangerous because of a possible stampede. The theater can make rules to forbid these false alerts, as its right as a private property, and/or make the person doing that pay any damage occurring because of a false alert, or for example make a rule to shut down phones. No need to make a nationwide law for that.

            But, at home, or in a public place, I can yell “Fire!”, or “Zombies!”, or even “Fuck you all!” as much as I want, I’ll just probably be seen as a lunatic.

            Also, these what if scenarios are always amusing: what if when I yell that, all I get is strange looks? What if it’s a prank when we are in a friend’s group ? What if I thought I’ve seen an actual fire? etc etc.

            Freedom of speech is the guaranty from the State that they will not try to forcefully remove the right from an individual to say anything because some group deems it necessary, but it doesn’t absolve the person to deal with the consequences if there are any, like any responsible person has to.

            To conclude, once you begin taking that road, there are ALWAYS “good” reasons to restrict more and more freedom of expression. Let’s ban Internet “trolls”, because they are “hurting” other people. Let’s ban violent video games, because they could make people become violent serial killers. Let’s ban Japanese hentai, because there is misogyny against fictional characters…
            Even simpler, let’s define “hate speech” as any speech that hurts another person (feelings), then let’s ban hate speech.

          • Sethala

            While I agree that it can be a very slippery slope, I have considered an opinion that a ban specifically on hate speech may not be a bad idea, as long as hate speech is constrained to comments intended to be hurtful. Classic example here would be Westboro; a law that would make their “protesting” illegal may not be all bad.

            (Posting from phone, will elaborate more later)

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  • JimmieTheRustle

    The best way, I think for “adult content” to lose some of it’s stigma would be to gain more exposure and ACQUIRE MORE MINERALS. We have to stick to it and let the revenue grow and not be afraid to talk about it. There are some decent youtube channels that are built around adult games like Shadow Fenrir (who’s also a developer) and Krystalize(who does translations for some rpgmaker games). Companies like Bioware started by dudes in a basement. Maybe one day some H-game devs can also become bloated masses of cancerous mediocrity?

    • Sierra Lee

      I aspire to cancerous mediocrity!

      It didn’t come up in the interview, but I’m trying to take an upward path along these lines. Right now my skills, team, and budget are limited, but I hope to make satisfying games given those limitations and increase what we can do in the process. Bioware-level games are far enough out that I won’t speculate, but I have hope that in a number of years we’ll be seeing more top tier indie level games from the adult games community. You can do a lot of interesting things even with a small budget, and I hope to try for those sweet spots along the way.

  • snooze321

    How rude; calling me a puritan. Still she has a very interesting idea there about exploring how the society of an h-game would actually work.

  • Atmey

    I really enjoyed Noxian Nights. The only Ren’py games I enjoyed are Akabur games, the rest seemed too linear for me.

    While I am not exactly western, I am trying to make some h games.

    • Sierra Lee

      Ah, we’re using Ren’py, but Kingdom of Deception isn’t going to be a visual novel. We’re just using the engine to create a game where you’ll be able to move around at least comparable to an Akabur game. It should actually have less linearity than any game I’ve made so far, at least that is the design goal. ^-^

  • Blank Generation

    Sierra’s great. I remember I was playing The Last Sovereign a year ago and got stuck with a gamebreaking bug after saving the game where I was trapped behind a character that wouldn’t move. I made a comment asking about it on the blog, Sierra asked me to send her one of my saves, I did and she personally fixed it before sending it back. I wasn’t even a backer!

    I’m disappointed to hear she won’t be doing that Teen Titans game, especially since the replacement project is one of those h-games where you play as the girl which is not personally to my tastes. I hope she has good luck with it though, she’s one of the good ones.

  • Antonio

    Sierra Lee, I really like your writing, and your ideas for TLS are really cool, but I am sorry to say this, it really lacks CGs. Scenes based on text only isn’t really enough for me. May I ask if you intend to do it as Oroboros and after finishing the game, you will hire people to make the CGs and sell it on Nutaku?

    • Sierra Lee

      My goal has always been to get art for the game eventually, but it’s difficult to find an appropriate artist. Unlike Ouroboros, which was complete and fairly short, TLS is a huge ongoing project. Finding a professional artist willing to take on a project like that is difficult.

      In an ideal world, I’d like to start including CGs in the game well before it ends. Long-term patrons can tell you that I’ve commissioned art from a number of artists, but so far none of them have worked out.

    • James J.

      I can vouch for Sierra there. She’s trying to find an artist that fits difficult criteria. Good in terms of quality, can mimic (to some extent at least) the style of the game, (because faces are important dammit!) can deliver art on a steady basis, (not necessarily fast but at least steady) and who is willing to commit to the entire project. Oh, and obviously they have to be willing to work on hentai. That last bit throws off quite a lot of the artists who would fit the other categories. Porn stigma again. Sucks. But she’s still looking!

      • Antonio

        The part of mimicing other styles isn’t a problem. The artist only needs to remake the portraits of the characters to look like their own styles. There aren’t many portraits to be remade, Commit for the entire project, this is hard. I even heard of an artist named Hizzy who is one of the best hentai artist I ever saw, but she don’t make outside commissions, I assume many of the really talented artists out there do the same.

  • musicsaint

    began playing this title out of curiosity what it was and ended up playing it all day! caught up in the storyline and the comfortable rpg progression of the game, really incredible for what it is i mean it sounds silly to be genuine given the content (though i am loving all the lewdness!) but i am more than a little impressed with what this is! will certainly play it through and am excited for anything done in the future, and am considerably inspired to pick up RPG maker someday! this just goes to show an excellent writer has the potential to create an immersive universe you can not only get lost in, but learn and recognize through enjoyable gameplay.. and thats that! i felt compelled by my experience to create an account and comment, for i feel the sincere desire to express my appreciation in a display of profound gratitude!